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DA Form 2185 — ARTILLERY COUNTER FIRE INFORMATION

artillery counter fire information

A newer edition of this form has been issued (09/01/2017). Download the current edition.

What is DA Form 2185? It is the Department of the Army form titled ARTILLERY COUNTER FIRE INFORMATION, and it exists so that you can artillery counter fire information. That single line covers most of what people arrive looking for. The rest of this page fills in the details.

Is this the current version? The edition offered here is dated 09/01/2017, published with the status ACTIVE. That date is the version number of a military form; there is no other. And no, this is not the newest one. A later edition has been published, and this copy is kept only for reference and for records already completed on it.

Do I fill this in myself? Usually yes, unless an administrative office keeps the record for you, in which case they enter what you supply. The form itself belongs to T2COM and is prescribed by ATP 3-09.30. It runs to 1 page(s) and about 100 fields.

What the form asks for

  • ACCURACY
  • AREA_BOMBED
  • DAMAGE
  • DIRECTION
  • FIRED_BY
  • FLASH_TO_BANG
  • FROM
  • NATURE_OF_FIRE
  • NATURE_OF_GUNS
  • NUMBER
  • NUMBER_OF_ROUNDS
  • NUMBER_TYPE_CALIBER
  • POSITION_OF_OBSERVER
  • POSITION_OF_TARGET
  • Page1
  • R10
  • R11
  • R12
  • R13
  • R14
  • R15
  • R16
  • R17
  • R18

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Which formats can I download? These: PDF. All of them carry the same published page — the difference is not what the form says but how you get words onto it.

Fillable or printable — which do I want? Fillable, if there is a keyboard involved: the boxes are interactive objects that store text. Printable, if there is a pen involved: the boxes are just lines on paper. Nothing else distinguishes them.

Do I need special software? Not for reading — a pdf opens in the browser you already have. For filling, install a full pdf reader rather than trusting the in-browser viewer, which sometimes displays fields it cannot save. Type into one field, save, reopen and confirm the text survived.

Do I have to sign up? No. Every format is free, no account is involved, and the file is distributed unmodified.

Where do you start? At the top of the page, with the identifying entries: name as your official records spell it, identification number, unit or organisation, date of preparation. Why first? Because those entries are what the form is filed and searched under later, and a record indexed on a misspelled name is a record nobody retrieves.

How should you work through the entry fields? With the tab key. It follows the order the form was constructed in, which is usually the order the page reads, so nothing gets passed over. Do check boxes work the same way? They are clicked rather than tabbed into. In an exclusive group, a second click elsewhere clears your first choice, as intended.

What happens if your answer is too long for the field? It prints cut off. A single-line field does not wrap, so text running past the edge stays readable on screen and then disappears at the margin on paper. What do you do instead? Move it to the remarks area or onto a continuation sheet. And a field that does not apply to you? Mark it as not applicable rather than leaving it blank — an empty box tells the reviewer nothing about whether you read the question.

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Where do you send it? To the destination the prescribing directive names, which may be a specific office, the unit administrative channel, or the individual's file. Is a copy worth keeping? Always, and taken before submission. How long does the receiving office keep it? For the period the records schedule for the series prescribes, regardless of local custom.

Which other forms travel with this one? Those found by series and number: DA series documents sharing a proponent or a governing directive are frequently needed in combination, and a form referenced on the face of another generally accompanies it. Do you assemble them before or after sending? Before. Continuation sheets, cover sheets and transmittals are part of the same package.

What causes a form to be superseded? A revision issued by the proponent, after which the previous edition date no longer matches the one in force. How do you check a copy you saved? Read the edition date on the page and hold it against the current edition. Must earlier submissions be redone? They must not — a completed record executed on a prior edition is unaffected.

Who publishes these files? This site does, as copies of published Department of the Army forms offered for download. Is there any official connection? None — the site is independent of the Department of the Army and issues nothing itself. Will a given office accept your document? That is not something anyone here can state, and none of this page is legal advice. Where do you take a specific question? To T2COM, or to the administrative office that services your unit.

Questions and answers

What is DA Form 2185?
ARTILLERY COUNTER FIRE INFORMATION
Which edition is current?
09/01/2017
Who is responsible for this form?
T2COM
In which formats can it be downloaded?
PDF, PDF

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